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Showing posts with label BSD. Show all posts

2014-03-15

PC-BSD, take 2

I have been feeling restless and somehow unsatisfied lately, kinda missing some thrill in my Linux adventures. Also, some part of it is my disappointment that Debian chose the future of systemd. Means that there will not be next stable Debian install for me. All in all - I decided to start with some slightly radical projects, one of which is new visit to BSD-land.
See the previous one here.

I dowloaded PC-BSD DVD-USB-version of iso, dd-d it to usb-stick:
dd if=PCBSD10.0-RELEASE-x64-DVD-USB-latest.iso of=/dev/sdd bs=1M
and booted it without problems. With my new and better box it didn't take very long for language-menu to appear. Whole installation looks roughly identical to ver 9.2.
Only filesystem available is zfs.
The new installing option is 'grub-slice' for planting grub2 to bsd root. What a joy - at last an option to escape fucked-up MBR, and get grub-generated correct boot-code!
... Well, it wasn't. Joy, I mean.
What I got was grub 'exiterror', indicating something like 'I can't understand so many partitions or labels or whatever'. And installation ended with 'Failed'.
I found quite a lot of the same when googling about it. What I didn't find was the solution.

I mused a bit over it - mind, quite relaxedly this time - as my expectations of successful installation wasn't especially high anyway.
Conclusion:
1. I really do not need zfs for my desktop. It's an overkill.
2. There seems to be quite a lot of difficulties to get zfs pool mounted in Linux - as BSD version of system tends to be newer than Linux-provided zfs-fuse. Means, one has to do various tricks for that, or - to get some common r/w partition for those op-systems (and no, freebsd does not recognize ext4).
3. And - I am not going to repair my MBR because some silly shit wants to overwrite it. One thing I expect from op-system is that it installs as I want it to be installed. PC-BSD still doesn't do it for me.
Formatted this special primary partition I had kept for BSD to ext4, and I might try Gentoo there ...

Because my previous BSD-post had a little part about Ghostbsd, then - I took a look. As is seen there, ver 4 alpha is out (and is based on Freebsd 10). Consequently - no install-attempts just now. But I will try when 4 gets released.

2013-08-25

Mystery of PC-BSD

A funny story of unsuccess and bafflement...
So I wanted to try out a BSD. I picked, warily, the simplest of them - PC-BSD. Downloaded 9.1 UsbLive version, wrote the img with WinImageWriter and booted.
Boot was abysmally slow, riddled with cryptic error-messages. Then, after an eternity, it asked if it can expand files... 'and the answer is yes', emphatically.
Then it rebooted! And loaded again what seemed a new eternity... then display wizard appeared and inquired if the resolution is right. It wasn't. Several attempts to suggest the right one ended with approximately 1 minute console view and after that: 'not possible'. So I let it have a wrong one and proceeded to desktop. Which was kinda slow and laggy.
Then I discovered that 5,6 Giga image was obviously too limited in size to have a browser...
And the stupid thing didn't have install option at all! What-the-hell?!
I felt enraged enough to promptly reboot - and intrigued enough to download install-usb.

I downloaded just-appeared 9.2 Usbfull, wrote it to USB in Linux using dd, and booted.
After lengthy delay menu appeared, and after 5 seconds - before I managed to read menu-items, it booted to default. Fuck. Reboot. Hit space to halt countdown. Read menus. Fuck. Nothing of interest there. Go default.
After more lengthy delay isotope-wallpaper appeared. After some more delay language-selector appeared.
I clicked 'next' and could pick a desktop (default is kde) and some more general packages (like various developments, compiz, etc). No problems there, desktop and window-manager choices are quite extensive. I chose Xfce and Openbox.
'Next' - Disk choices.
Default was zfs to first hdd, all.
I clicked 'customize', then 'advanced'... Menu looked nothing like screenshot from 'Handbook'. Well...
I picked 'ada1s4' as install-partition, and - I couldn't pick ufs. There simply wasn't that option.
What? Where? Fuck? Cancel.
I then tried 'expert' install, typed 'sysinstall' to terminal, navigated back and forth, picked this and that, created root (ufs2) and swap. Commit. Error - can't write from usb blah-blah...
Deep breath. Count to hundred. Think.
OK, install zfs then, you bastard (and no bootloader - as 'Handbook' says if you are going to multiboot from already existing bootloader).
No problems with usb at all, now - the thing installed OK (it took awhile).
Reboot.
Trying to convince Grub2 that there IS bsd. Googling and searching. Trying this and that - and no success whatsoever, no boot.
Bloody fuck!
Downloaded older 9.1 usbfull. Install looked and was exactly the same - no ufs option. Cancel. &^%$ %$##^!
So, it boils down to if I want to experiment with installing zfs+bootloader (for getting valid boot code) - and very probably having to restore overwritten MBR.
I am not sure I want...
And I still can't understand WHY THERE IS NO UFS option available for me.
Edit: It came out that PC-BSD folks simply decided not to support ufs anymore. Ups! Taking to account that manuals there seem to be updated not especially slowly - then one might expect updated Handbook in a year, surely... Edit ends
Well, I think I leave BSD alone for a while. No use to risk with stroke.

Edit: Just for fun and giggles - I also dowloaded GhostBSD 3.1 Lxde amd64 (just after pc-bsd fiasco), wrote the img two times and results are:
a) In Linux, format with GParted, then dd, according to 'handbook'.
Boot messages: No bootloader, no kernel. End.
b) In Windows XP, format with HP usb writer, then winImgwriter, as adviced.
A lot of text (progress!), riddled with multitude of errors. X couldn't start because there were no 'screens' nor any 'devices' available. End.
That was that. Edit ends.